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Thomas Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2013 9:39 am    Post subject: Christie signs 10 gun control bills into law Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Christie signs 10 gun control bills into law


But he refused to sign 5 others so everything is ok, right?
Um...no:
Two of the bills Christie signed were opposed by gun-rights activists: One bars gun purchases by people on the federal terrorism watch-list; the other makes it mandatory for the state to submit information on people who are banned from gun ownership to a national database.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 4:08 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Gun sales are rising in an already thriving industry as aficionados stock up, fearing what may come. The White House is considering 19 separate gun control measures that could be passed by executive order. Meanwhile, it is meeting stiff opposition from gun advocates and from the National Rifle Association, which may or may not have close ties to the $12 billion-a-year firearms industry.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:08 am    Post subject: Re: Christie signs 10 gun control bills into law Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Thomas Jones wrote:
Christie signs 10 gun control bills into law


But he refused to sign 5 others so everything is ok, right?
Um...no:
Two of the bills Christie signed were opposed by gun-rights activists: One bars gun purchases by people on the federal terrorism watch-list; the other makes it mandatory for the state to submit information on people who are banned from gun ownership to a national database.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2013/08/christie_signs_10_gun_control_bills_into_law.html#ixzz2bU0HduQ7
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The problems with the 2 laws you specifically mentioned are
1) the terrorism watch list is something that no one has offered any real insight on, regarding how one ends up on it and how one seeks redress for being on it. Would members of the Black Panthers or KKK fall into the definition? Supporters of Irish independence from Britain? Supporters of Israel or Palestine?

2) reporting people banned in one state to a national registry also sounds good on its face until you realize that 50 states have very different reasons for barring someone from owning firearms. NJ is very strict with Domestic Violence, not a criticism but an observation. What constitutes domestic violence in NJ may not hold true in Montana, where a person banned from owning a gun in NJ may move to. Add in any other reasons why a state may bar someone from gun ownership and you'll have more opportunities for someone to be unfairly prevented from gun ownership.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Another issue with the terror watch list- something that hangs people up in airports every day is the fact that if Richard Reid, a terrorist who I'm sure is on that list, and you happen to share the same name- you're getting flagged too unless you find a way to get the list clarified that you aren't the terrorist. Also, this list is only people suspected of terrorism. They may not have been convicted of any crime.

What happens when Richard Reid(the innocent guy sharing the same name as a terorist) goes to buy a gun in NJ now? If he's barred from buying the gun, I'd say he has been illegally deprived of his constitutional right and NJ is going to be on the receiving end of a civil rights lawsuit- further costing our taxpayers more.

The lack of due process would have killed this bill had I been the governor.

Also, I'd like to know the data on this issue. How many suspected terrorists have gone through the NJ Firearms Purchaser ID card application and actually purchased a firearm?
And how many of these suspected terrorists who have purchased guns in NJ have used them in the commission of a crime?


Secondly, since NJ is now submitting data to the FBI NICS system, why aren't we switching gears to allowing the FBI to conduct the background checks at the point of sale? We already pay for the FBI to do this, so why are we also paying NJSP to do the same thing? The FBI's system is already technically advanced over NJ, and has an arm up on NJSP since it allows for background checks to be conducted in less than a minute over a computer- for FREE. NJSP charges $15 dollars and gun dealers in NJ must sit on the phone for 5 minutes while the check is completed. Back in April this process got so backed up that it was taking 2 weeks to conduct a background check at the point of sale.

It's a win-win- more Troopers on the streets,and gun buyers don't have to pay an extra $15 to exercise a constitutional right.

Can you imagine if you had to pay $15 to vote, or $15 to speak freely? There would be outrage.
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