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N.J. residents were highest-taxed in U.S. in 2009
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Wharton



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: N.J. residents were highest-taxed in U.S. in 2009 Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/nj_residents_were_highest-taxe.html

"New Jersey residents were the highest-taxed in the country in 2009, giving 12.2 percent of their income to state and local taxes."



But NJ did move up in business tax climate from dead last to 48th. (dead last being 50th place, not 57th as stated by President Obama.)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:35 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Nice, that's a move up Shocked So what states are worse Question I'm not asking for much... two or three max now Shocked I didn't read the link Cool Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The peoples republics of New York (49th) and California (50th) of course.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:41 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wharton wrote:
The peoples republics of New York (49th) and California (50th) of course.


I made that assumption; so bottom line is you saved me the time. Idea

Thx
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:22 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wharton seems to have chaged Hmmmmmmm.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:25 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

If you're speaking of WomenBornTransexual.com you need to talk to Freddy.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:26 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Rammy, were you the fat kid that got beat up for his lunch money? Being the JV admin has really gone to your head.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:11 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad NJ... taxation without representation.... Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I just read where NJ has over 600 school districts. Does each district have its own bunch of overpaid administrators?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:17 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

freddy wrote:
I just read where NJ has over 600 school districts. Does each district have its own bunch of overpaid administrators?


There is ur problem..talk about consolidation
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:39 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Yes, they do Freddy....600 school districts...........and yes, bearded1 the answer is consolidation.
Christie should put it on the November statewide ballot for all voters in NJ......just like the open space question.
Do you want school consolidation if the County School Superintendent and a panel of experts propose specific consolidations?

Yes or No...............Majority rules.
I bet you it would be a resounding yes vote.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:56 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Let see:

Number of School Districts per State:

New Jersey: 581
New York: 701
Calif: 985

Maryland: 24
Delaware: 19



I guess the poor children of Maryland and Delaware are suffering.

We could go to 21 county school districts, save the taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars in duplicated services and positions.

But, that would mean less taxpayer money that able to be laundered to the democrats from union dues.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 10:58 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Another question. Who makes the investment and actuarial assumptions for their calculations? I also read that the assumed rate of return is 8.25% while they have averaged only 2.6% over the last ten years. Why should the taxpayer be responsible for that lack of fidicuary responsibility?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:04 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

And the taxpayers have to pay the shortfall form their poor investment assumptions.


That's the reason the public workers pension fund in NJ is in suchastonishingly bad shape.

The payments the governors stopped making are a small % of the shortfall. The bulk of it is because the investments had poor returns but the taxpayers are on the hook to bring it up to an annual return of 8.25%.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:39 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wharton wrote:
But, that would mean less taxpayer money that able to be laundered to the democrats from union dues.
Well are you talking about streamlining administrators, or eliminating teachers? Or is this just a red herring.

By the way, Republicans could win workers' support if only you were not so determinedly anti-worker. You shouldn't presume that like yourself public employees pay allegience to party label regardless.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why dont the unions let the members choose what political party their dues will be contributed to then?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:46 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Eliminate thousands of superintendents, administrators and duplicated positions, expenses, buildings, etc.

I'm not anti-worker, I'm pro taxpayer and pro efficiency.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Well buildings or union teachers?

Wharton wrote:
But, that would mean less taxpayer money that able to be laundered to the democrats from union dues.
This is partisan nonsense.

Christie skipped the scheduled $3 billion pension payment just like the others.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:01 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Why cant you eliminate both union teachers and buildings?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:04 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Wharton wrote:
New Jersey residents were highest-taxed
New Jersey residences were the third highest concentration of millionaires.

Millionaire households: 212,396

Full-time classroom teachers: 112,933
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:09 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

What does that have to do with anything?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Poll: Raise Taxes on Millionaires!

A poll from Crossroads GPS, the Republican group that played a major role in 2010 campaign spending, found 55% supported versus just 41% opposed to raising taxes on "people that make more than one million dollars per year."
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:22 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Poll-A poll done by Stanford(very liberal) found 46% of those polled said teachers deserved a great deal of the blame for the problems of public schools.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:23 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

"People that make more than one million dollars," that is the Republican pollsters' wording. But we do not tax "people," we tax income. That is a common misperception. For instance, the Obama tax cuts on income up to $250,000 also included the first $250,000 of a billionaires income, too.

Yes, the people who made more than $1 million a year, would have got the same top dollar tax cut as the family who earned $250,000. (But Republicans demanded that tax cut for billionaires' entire income, so they held the middle class tax cuts hostage to their demands.)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:36 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

freddy wrote:
Poll-A poll done by Stanford (very liberal)
To call a pollster liberal or conservative would require evidence the poll's results have historically missed the mark in a liberal or conservative direction. It is not enough that Stanford is not Glenn Beck University.

Rasmussen polls, for example have been shown biased and inaccurate. Rasmussen Reports, including some commissioned on behalf of Fox News, badly missed the margin in many states, and also exhibited a considerable bias toward Republican candidates. Like Mr. Rasmussen himself.
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