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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 6:15 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.
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sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.


Most of our ancestors were all immigrants. It always amazes me when people talk about "those immigrants"
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sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.


hmmm.... lucky for you ignorance is bliss!!!!
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sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.


hmmm.... lucky for you ignorance is bliss!!!!


Ignorance? What part of my comment is ignorant?
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the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Sadly, they usually find it (better life) faster than those born here trying to educate themselves hoping to find a better job.

I don't understand why our government is always so generous to the latest immigrants while keeping natural born citizens at bay. Why should illegal immigrants get reduced college education tuition while our sons and daughters struggle to pay their own way? Makes absolutely no sense. Charity begins at home, especially since it's our own money that foots the government.
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I totallly agree Scorp.

You only need to check out who is having input on the Gang of Eight immigration reform committee to understand who wants liberalized immigration into America, immediate legalization amnesty for aliens and why.
The US Chamber of Commerce (who wants more Free Trade agreements, more outsourcing of American jobs to third world countries and more in-sourcing of "immigrants" to do American jobs and primarily drive wages down.) Also the AFL-CIO and SEIU, a few religious organizations and of course several of the 80+ hispanic organizations who expect more illegals will give them more people, money and power to influence. Why are all the anti-illegal immigration organizations banned from speaking to this group? Why is our very own immigration enforcement agency (ICE) banned from speaking to this group?
The whole "immigration reform" is a big lie. According to our own immigration law, people who apply to America for a permanent Visa are immigrants. People who sneak across the border or float over to our coast are unauthorized aliens, not immigrants.
Currently, 8.9% of unauthorized aliens are working in American jobs, many in the construction industy which many Americans would love to do. Very few work in agriculture.
All of my ancestors did it the right, lawful way, and they were immigrants, not unauthorized aliens who break several laws to stay illegally in America and end up getting the brass ring of generations of immigrants who came to America to become American citizens. This "immigration reform bill" does not help Americans, but it will hurt them economically for generations to come.
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Agree, barracuda. Why do some people continue using our ancestors as an example when referring to immigration?

As stated, they came here seeking a better life and were legally processed and documented on the path to citizenship. It's a disgrace that our government is spying and eavesdropping on it's citizens but are unable to do the same to foreign terrorists and criminals who lurk among us.
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We are getting sold down the river by both parties. The only policy the republicans had got right and now they are going to abandon it. True profiles in courage. Shocked
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The "spin masters" use the word "Immigrant" rather than "alien" because it sounds better to Americans, whose ancestors were lawful immigrants rather than unlawful aliens. It's all about trying to garner sympathy from Americans so they can get their agenda pushed through our legislature.

This whole "Comprehensive immigration reform" is a bunch of baloney and geared to benefit all the unlawful aliens in America...the border jumpers and those with expired Visas. It does nothing to protect Americans from foreign nationals illegally in the US.

Our government knows there are millions of "unauthorized aliens" living "in the shadows" in America. They don't know exactly how many, or where they actually are living and working, but they know they are here in America. How scary is that statement coming from our government? Worse than that, our governments' answer to this problem is to give them permanent legal residency? And, there is no plan for finding the "unauthorized aliens" who won't come forward for legalization and may mean us harm. Yeah, we have a broken immigration system in the US; but the broken part is we let people into America who shouldn't be here and we don't know where they are and we don't want to find them. Fix that through real immigration reform. I don't know of one American, who for the safety of their fellow Americans, would take offense at being asked to prove they are a legitimate American citizen. Only the ones who want to protect unauthorized aliens would take offense at proving they are American, in my opinion.
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sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:53 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

barracuda wrote:
The "spin masters" use the word "Immigrant" rather than "alien" because it sounds better to Americans, whose ancestors were lawful immigrants rather than unlawful aliens. It's all about trying to garner sympathy from Americans so they can get their agenda pushed through our legislature.

This whole "Comprehensive immigration reform" is a bunch of baloney and geared to benefit all the unlawful aliens in America...the border jumpers and those with expired Visas. It does nothing to protect Americans from foreign nationals illegally in the US.

Our government knows there are millions of "unauthorized aliens" living "in the shadows" in America. They don't know exactly how many, or where they actually are living and working, but they know they are here in America. How scary is that statement coming from our government? Worse than that, our governments' answer to this problem is to give them permanent legal residency? And, there is no plan for finding the "unauthorized aliens" who won't come forward for legalization and may mean us harm. Yeah, we have a broken immigration system in the US; but the broken part is we let people into America who shouldn't be here and we don't know where they are and we don't want to find them. Fix that through real immigration reform. I don't know of one American, who for the safety of their fellow Americans, would take offense at being asked to prove they are a legitimate American citizen. Only the ones who want to protect unauthorized aliens would take offense at proving they are American, in my opinion.

Like I have said before the immigration process is long and expensive and I think they should make the unauthorized aliens follow the same process that we had to go through. They have a extra benefit in that they moved into the US right away whereas It 8 months from start to finish for my Husband to enter legally.
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beachnutz wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.


Most of our ancestors were all immigrants. It always amazes me when people talk about "those immigrants"


Well, supposedly humans started out in Africa and migrated from there, so the great majority of the human race are immigrants.
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4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.



Weak post. Most of them do not have 60k in assets.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.



Weak post. Most of them do not have 60k in assets.

Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.
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4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.



Weak post. Most of them do not have 60k in assets.

Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.



Most of them don't come through the front door.
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max has never gotten anything right before. i doubt he has made an exception now. Cool
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maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.



Weak post. Most of them do not have 60k in assets.

Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.



Most of them don't come through the front door.

Why risk your life taking a boat across the Florida straight or run across some :: lousy :: desert when you can just come through the front door and overstay the visitor visa.
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Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.


The know-it-alls actually don't know jack. They just think they do. Cool
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4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.



Weak post. Most of them do not have 60k in assets.

Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.



Most of them don't come through the front door.

Why risk your life taking a boat across the Florida straight or run across some :: lousy :: desert when you can just come through the front door and overstay the visitor visa.



They don't give visas to everyone. Unskilled workers with no education, no money and a criminal record probably can't get visas. WE have plenty of people like that in our urban areas.
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maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
4everBlowingBubbles wrote:
maximus99 wrote:
sharks-eat-commies wrote:
sherluck gnomes wrote:
Real simple....they all...are those who want to come here.....the USA is the number 1 country for immigration.....certainly the cowards who bombed the Boston Marathon....had parents and relatives WHO WANTED TO COME HERE.....you can pontificate all you want....but the fact is.....the USA is the number 1 destination for ALL THOSE SEEKING A BETTER LIFE!.......Dispute it.....


Yeah we do get far more immigrants per year than other countries, it's mostly people from dirt poor countries or countries that are extremely oppressive like China or Cuba. Not many are moving here from Japan How about Sweden? Not too many of them either. Also, relatively speaking, there are other countries that get a greater number of immigrants as a percentage of their population..Russia, Canada, Germany, and France for example.

But, no, they don't ALL want to come here. Most want to stay in their home countries.



The lower class migrate here. The upper class countries try to avoid diversity.

Diversity destroys schools, neighborhoods and countries.

It is ironic that Dems preach about diversity but the reality is Dems do not want diversity for the sake of diversity. The lower class Dems want diversity so they can ride the coattails of the upper class. The upper class dems all try to avoid diversity. You won't see the Kennedys living in a diversity neighborhood.

If lower class Dems really wanted diveristy then why don't they clean up their neighborhoods and make them attractive to outsiders? Lower class dems do everything they can to make their neighborhoods unattractive to outsiders.

I wouldn't say someone with the 60K in liquid assets to sponsor a family member and over a thousand for the initial application as lower class. a Plus £350 to take your blood pressure and call it a health exam.



Weak post. Most of them do not have 60k in assets.

Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.



Most of them don't come through the front door.

Why risk your life taking a boat across the Florida straight or run across some :: lousy :: desert when you can just come through the front door and overstay the visitor visa.



They don't give visas to everyone. Unskilled workers with no education, no money and a criminal record probably can't get visas. WE have plenty of people like that in our urban areas.

Maybe not murderers but for most people you can get a US visitor visa valid for 3 months with criminal convictions,no money, and no education. Or if your country is on the VWP just show up at the border after filling out an ESTA.
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There are some many complex issues to our immigration policy, I could type for hours. I have typed many posts about this. A close family friend is an immigration lawyer, my wife went through the naturalization process.


1st problem, we dont have any idea of how many "alien" workers we need. We do not enforce our labor laws to know how many share croppers in CA and else where are using illegal help, we dont know how many maids, dish washers, cooks, labor workers are illegal. The number 1 way to fix the boarders go after the economy that supports them to cross the boarder illegally. If there were NO CASH JOBS, they wouldnt be coming. Stop sending US jobs to Mexico and killing the mexican wages with major companies putting factories in MX and paying pennies for labor.

2nd Problem, Quota, we have no idea what the quotas for Green Cards, Temp Workers should even be, and the numbers are so low, you have a better chance of winning the power ball than to come to the USA LEGALLY. Once you get to come here, YOU CANT BRING ANYONE ELSE. Tell your husband or wife and your kids to stay home. This is a far cry from what our grand parents, great grand parents had to come here. They allowed families to come to the USA, today, sorry only you leave your family behind and in a few months or maybe years you can fill out paperwork for them.

3rd Problem, ties in with number 1, the IRS gives Illegals a way to pay taxes even when they arent legal to work in the USA, which creates a weird burden on Employers to even know if your hiring a legal or illegal person. A drivers license and tax ID card gets you past the I-9 form. Now many states you can get a DL without a SSN, and IRS gives you a Tax ID numbers that gets your accountant past the need for a SSN to submit federal and state taxes.


4th Problem, if you did not enter the USA LEGALLY, YOU CAN NOT GET A GREEN CARD OR CITIZENSHIP. We have countless "illegals" married to US Citizens and with US Citizen Babies who have NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP. The system is pretty much broken.


Trust me, tourist visa's are not handed out like candy, many of my wives family/friends has been denied a tourist visa. Even when you get one you have to proof property ownership, job status and countless other bits of information to prove you wont stay in the USA. So dont think the over stays a huge influx of illegals.


So what we have is a system that "we the people" broke, by allowing Aliens to break the Farm Workers, meat packing and labor trade unions in the 80's, no enforcement of labor laws to catch the employers who are making profits off the back of illegal wages, a look away policy of our state and federal govt as long as your paying taxes and a quota system that A. gives us no idea of how many unskilled workers we need and B is so low that your only left with crossing the boarder illegally.

My final point is, if Canada was paying unskilled workers 5,000 per day in cash to do unskilled jobs, or trade jobs how many of us would cross the boarder to make that kind of money. That is really what many of the 3rd world is faced when they have the chance to cross our boarder illegally and find work for far more money than could ever be paid at home, even if they could find a job.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:31 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Scorpion wrote:
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Why's that? It's what you need if you plan to bring a family member to the US through a consular filing.


The know-it-alls actually don't know jack. They just think they do. Cool

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:28 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

only scorp could be proud of being a know nothing, you don't even have to poke fun at him...he does it himself, priceless. Laughing
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