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cobra



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: right wing Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Goals.. to see right-wing racists have a short life...that would be my goal
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: right wing Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cobra wrote:
Goals.. to see right-wing racists have a short life...that would be my goal



Cobra is just a typical hate monger Democrat.


Without Rs he would starve. Whithout Rs then who would do the work and pay for all his welfare programs? If he was willign to work then he would not need the welfare.

Anyone remember what happened to the inner cities when the whites like Estein fled? The hoodcrats are still complaining about whiteflight.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:51 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

not me cobra, i hope a pathetic, sad excuse for a human being like max lives forever. he wakes up unhappy and goes to bed a little more miserable every night. live a long lonely life max! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:10 pm    Post subject: max Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Max,

is Barack HUSSEIN Obama your President?after, all he grew up fairly poor and Black...
White flight---the great racist migration...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:07 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

villainesta wrote:
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It is a semi-automatic rifle which is the same as thousands of hunting rifles,


No, real hunting rifles are bolt action or lever action and are 30 caliber to insure adequate stopping power. Hunting with a light caliber semi-auto is not sportsmanship.


So being an avid hunter, you're true goal is to improve 'sportsmanship'?
Please don't tel hunters what they should be using and please learn to recognize that you're being duped into a false sense of security while you and your fellow citizens stand a very real chance of having your rights stripped.

No one can own a fully automatic weapon without possessing a very expensive and hard to get permit from the feds. The few people that have them are dealers and high end collectors who would never risk their licenses or collections by being irresponsible with those guns. Most descriptors of "assault weapons" are purely cosmetic and do little to nothing to improve the weapon's firing ability. Cosmetic things like expandable stocks (illegal in NJ) are thought to make a gun easier to hide, when in reality they're meant to provide a 'better fit' for the shooter(s). The reality is guns with these stocks still have the requisite barrel length and are no shorter than the smallest rifles or shotguns sold without expandable stocks.

The only real argument (while it should be a more rational discussion) is about capacity. While you may not want an attacker to get off more rounds, you as a defender will want all the ammo you can get when it comes time to fire back and you WON'T want to have to stop and reload, assuming you even have a spare magazine at the ready.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:58 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

its this kind of rambo mentality that makes it impossible to have a discussion with you. how did you come up with this scenario? intruders break in semi-automatics blazing, you joe america bare chested with 2 AR-15's in each hand returning fire but dam that obama you're running low on ammo...sheeeesh! and you really don't know why people don't want people who think like that to have guns, amazing! Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

spazcat wrote:
its this kind of rambo mentality that makes it impossible to have a discussion with you. how did you come up with this scenario? intruders break in semi-automatics blazing, you joe america bare chested with 2 AR-15's in each hand returning fire but dam that obama you're running low on ammo...sheeeesh! and you really don't know why people don't want people who think like that to have guns, amazing! Cool

this isn't all about ar-15 s and the like. You're myopic on the subject and resort to a mocking tone which makes it impossible to have a discussion with you. And you really don't know why people don't want people who think like you to have a say in our gun rights. amazing Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 9:35 pm    Post subject: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

The problem is, your gun rights have infringed on all Americans rights to pursue freedom to live in a peaceful society to enjoy llife, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Placing armed guiards at school deminishished our rights to live in a peaceful society.
And there are 20 dead children and teachers whose rights have been violated--forever. That is the argument....that is the issue.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cobra wrote:
The problem is, your gun rights have infringed on all Americans rights to pursue freedom to live in a peaceful society to enjoy llife, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Placing armed guiards at school deminishished our rights to live in a peaceful society.
And there are 20 dead children and teachers whose rights have been violated--forever. That is the argument....that is the issue.


Adam Lanza did not have the right to purchase a firearm. He stole his mothers legally owned guns because she was irresponsible and did not lock them up.
Holmes in CO, was seeing a psychiatrist who FAILED to report him as being a threat.

My gun rights did not infringe on anyone's right to pursue freedom etc. Psychotic individuals denied them their right. My guns are owned legally and are used for legal purposes.

I did NOTHING to violate anyone's rights. Why should I be punished?
Because people drunk drive, should we ban cars?
Because Catholic priests molest children, should we ban Catholicism from our society?

There comes a time when the government is being too much of a Nanny and we have to say enough is enough. Just because legislators are legislators does not mean they have to make up new laws 24/7.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cobra wrote:
The problem is, your gun rights have infringed on all Americans rights to pursue freedom to live in a peaceful society to enjoy llife, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Placing armed guiards at school deminishished our rights to live in a peaceful society.
And there are 20 dead children and teachers whose rights have been violated--forever. That is the argument....that is the issue.


No, my rights haven't hurt anyone. Lunatics and criminals have hurt plenty of people. Start pointing your finger at people who claim their right to privacy as the culpable ones. I hope you get as much mileage with that......and I'd actually support you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:16 pm    Post subject: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

if the gun industry was regulated like the auto drivers, how many loons wouldbe driving? or get insurance? or pass a test? Weak argument.
again. No where in the second aamendment does it give anyone the "right" to bear "all arms" No where. Ok, every one gets a musket and powder...Ok? No , assault rifles and large magazines in civilian hands are not a "right" for aanyone. AGAIN, YOU HAVE NO "RIGHT" TO BEAR AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON, RIGHT? SO WE DRAW THE LINE EVEN FURTHER--AND SAVE LIVES..
sorry for the caps
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Re: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cobra wrote:
if the gun industry was regulated like the auto drivers, how many loons wouldbe driving? or get insurance? or pass a test? Weak argument.
again. No where in the second aamendment does it give anyone the "right" to bear "all arms" No where. Ok, every one gets a musket and powder...Ok? No , assault rifles and large magazines in civilian hands are not a "right" for aanyone. AGAIN, YOU HAVE NO "RIGHT" TO BEAR AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON, RIGHT? SO WE DRAW THE LINE EVEN FURTHER--AND SAVE LIVES..
sorry for the caps


Obama is letting all the inner city Dems keep their handguns. Most murders are committed with handguns. I guess Obama does not care about the inner city Dems and their safety.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Celebrities have armed guards at their homes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: max Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

[quote="
after, all he grew up fairly poor and Black...
White flight---the great racist migration...[/quote]

BHO was mainly raised in not so cheap Hawaii and went to private schools which were very expensive.

"Starting at age 6, Obama attended a Catholic school in Indonesia. At age 8, he attended a public school in Indonesia, nominally a Muslim school, which is where the "Muslim" tempest in a teapot comes from.

At age 10, he left his mother and Muslim stepfather behind in Indonesia, moving to Honolulu to live with his Mom's parents. His grandmother was a Vice President for the Bank of Hawaii and was able to afford to send him to the prestigious private college preparatory Punahou Academy, still considered the finest school in Hawaii. He attended there from 5th grade, and graduated from high school there in 1979.

Obama then attended Occidental College, a liberal arts college in Los Angeles from 1979 to 1981. He admittedly was a bit of a party animal there. He apparently got a bit more serious his sophomore year and transferred to Columbia University in New York City for his junior and senior years, graduating from Columbia in 1983.

From 1988 to 1991 Obama attended Harvard Law School, graduating magna :: removed :: laude and was editor of the Law review.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_school_did_Barack_Obama_attend#ixzz2IkVhyHzt
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cobra wrote:
if the gun industry was regulated like the auto drivers, how many loons wouldbe driving? or get insurance? or pass a test? Weak argument.
again. No where in the second aamendment does it give anyone the "right" to bear "all arms" No where. Ok, every one gets a musket and powder...Ok? No , assault rifles and large magazines in civilian hands are not a "right" for aanyone. AGAIN, YOU HAVE NO "RIGHT" TO BEAR AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON, RIGHT? SO WE DRAW THE LINE EVEN FURTHER--AND SAVE LIVES..
sorry for the caps


Actually this automobile comparison is getting tiresome and has always been weak. Driving is a privilege, something that can be taken at will. The right to bear arms is exactly what the name implies, a right. And the insistence that we should be left with just muskets and powder is tiresome too. There was no mention of any specific firearms or rate of fire, etc. No where in the Constitution does it say you can print anonymous speech on a magical box that sends messages through the air either. Maybe you should be limited to ink and quill for writing letters into the newspaper which shall be printed by hand with movable type.

Most importantly, you fail to recognize the purpose of the Constitution as a whole. Fascists like yourself would like to limit the rights of the citizens. The Constitution exists to limit the rights of the GOVERNMENT!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: rights Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

cobra wrote:
if the gun industry was regulated like the auto drivers, how many loons wouldbe driving? or get insurance? or pass a test? Weak argument.
again. No where in the second aamendment does it give anyone the "right" to bear "all arms" No where. Ok, every one gets a musket and powder...Ok? No , assault rifles and large magazines in civilian hands are not a "right" for aanyone. AGAIN, YOU HAVE NO "RIGHT" TO BEAR AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON, RIGHT? SO WE DRAW THE LINE EVEN FURTHER--AND SAVE LIVES..
sorry for the caps


If you READ(which is obviously beyond your ability) what I posted, you would know that the supreme court ruled on this in 1939 in United States vs Miller. They ruled that we, in order to be prepared as a militia are allowed to own weaponry comparable to what the military uses at the current time. They said that since a sawed off shotgun is not a weapon commonly used by the military it was allowed to be regulated/banned.

So, the military uses an M4 rifle which has semi-automatic or burst fire(3 shots, automatically) and some versions are indeed fully automatic. .
We are allowed to own the AR-15 type rifle which is ONLY semi-automatic, and we are not even allowed to have a rifle currently used by the military(which IS automatic) due to some other acts passed by congress.
We cannot "bear" a automatic rifle...so quit touting your :: bologna :: saying we can.

If you wish to understand about the laws regarding automatic rifles, read up on the Gun Control act of 1968 and the 1986 Firearms Owners Protection Act.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:19 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I HAVE NO GUNS...PLEASE DON'T HURT ME....
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:37 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

bluedog1946 wrote:
I HAVE NO GUNS...PLEASE DON'T HURT ME....



We are the law abiding citizens, who are responsible gun owners. I have no intention of ever hurting anyone. I hurt paper targets, and occasionally clay pigeons. Very Happy

I'm sure people like Cobra would like to portray us as evil human beings and that we are all mass-murders for owning a gun, but I assure you we are not. We are simply patriots who love our county, its' beliefs and rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution. We are passionate about that last part. It may be one of us that saves your life one day.
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