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Long_Duk_Dong



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:16 pm    Post subject: Scruuumbag politicaians and unions Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

NJ is in a state of emergency. Tons of people still without power and they send home electrical crews that want to help the citizens of new jersey because they are not union. Jackarses.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Scruuumbag politicaians and unions Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
NJ is in a state of emergency. Tons of people still without power and they send home electrical crews that want to help the citizens of new jersey because they are not union. Jackarses.


If you'd turn off Rush and Fox you'd find out that it's a bunch of B.S.
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Long_Duk_Dong



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Dont watch or listen to either. If it is wrong then please tell me what is the real story and the justification for someone deciding that more help was not needed.
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sharks-eat-commies



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
Dont watch or listen to either. If it is wrong then please tell me what is the real story and the justification for someone deciding that more help was not needed.


Did you get this from Donald Trump? Several crews have said that they weren't turned away.


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Long_Duk_Dong



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:33 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Actually it was on the news in Boston.
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sharks-eat-commies



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
Actually it was on the news in Boston.


Was it the Son's of Paul Revere radio show? The crews themselves have said that it's not true...they weren't turned away.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
Actually it was on the news in Boston.


If you have ever wondered how some of the outrageous stuff you hear from the right and on Fox News/Limbaugh etc. gets started -- well, this is how.

This morning there were reports that power crews from Alabama that had driven up north to help out with restoring power to areas affected by Hurricane Sandy were turned away because they aren't unionized.

This story started with a report by TV station WAFF in Huntsville, Ala.


Crews from Decatur Utilities headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can't do any work there since they're not union employees.
The general manager of Decatur Utilities, Ray Hardin told Fox Business they were presented documents from the International Brotherhood of Electric Workers at a staging area in Virginia. The documents stated they had to affiliate with a union to work, which the crews could not agree to.

It took off from there -- including this story -- and is spreading like wildfire. WAFF has since updated its original story, but it's already spreading.
If it was in fact true, it would be pretty dumb.

During times of great crisis, who cares about such things? Just get the :: darn :: power back on as quickly as possible.

Problem is that the story is not entirely accurate.

Representatives with Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Cooperative, two area utilities mentioned in media reports claiming their crews were not allowed to help with storm aid in New Jersey because they were non-union, said this morning the story is untrue.
Not true? How can that be?
Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities, said nine of his employees are currently helping with recovery from Hurricane Sandy and had no union-related issues.
"That's a rumor," he said. "We are starting work this morning with Long Island Power Authority. We were headed to a New Jersey utility but they had all the crews they could handle."

A spokeswoman for Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Cooperative said the crews from Trinity also are assisting with storm recovery and, in fact, are unionized.

"It is not true for us," she said. "I don't know how we got lumped in there (in that report). We sent eight guys to Maryland, not New Jersey. They have been there since before the storm but they've finished work and are headed home this morning."

The folks from Decatur Utilies, who are still cited in the original WAFF report, have been unavailable for comment this morning.
When they do become available, you can bet that the real story is not one of power crews being turned away by unions who would rather see people freeze in unheated homes than have non-union crews work in New jersey.

But that won't stop Rush and the "journalists" at Fox.
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Long_Duk_Dong



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

I read another story. They were required to adopt union policies if they wanted to work. The fact that there were any roadblocks or stipulations at all is ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:45 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

eyenstein wrote:
Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
Actually it was on the news in Boston.


If you have ever wondered how some of the outrageous stuff you hear from the right and on Fox News/Limbaugh etc. gets started -- well, this is how.

This morning there were reports that power crews from Alabama that had driven up north to help out with restoring power to areas affected by Hurricane Sandy were turned away because they aren't unionized.

This story started with a report by TV station WAFF in Huntsville, Ala.


Crews from Decatur Utilities headed up there this week, but Derrick Moore, one of the Decatur workers, said they were told by crews in New Jersey that they can't do any work there since they're not union employees.
The general manager of Decatur Utilities, Ray Hardin told Fox Business they were presented documents from the International Brotherhood of Electric Workers at a staging area in Virginia. The documents stated they had to affiliate with a union to work, which the crews could not agree to.

It took off from there -- including this story -- and is spreading like wildfire. WAFF has since updated its original story, but it's already spreading.
If it was in fact true, it would be pretty dumb.

During times of great crisis, who cares about such things? Just get the :: darn :: power back on as quickly as possible.

Problem is that the story is not entirely accurate.

Representatives with Huntsville Utilities and Joe Wheeler Cooperative, two area utilities mentioned in media reports claiming their crews were not allowed to help with storm aid in New Jersey because they were non-union, said this morning the story is untrue.
Not true? How can that be?
Bill Yell, spokesman for Huntsville Utilities, said nine of his employees are currently helping with recovery from Hurricane Sandy and had no union-related issues.
"That's a rumor," he said. "We are starting work this morning with Long Island Power Authority. We were headed to a New Jersey utility but they had all the crews they could handle."

A spokeswoman for Joe Wheeler Electrical Membership Cooperative said the crews from Trinity also are assisting with storm recovery and, in fact, are unionized.

"It is not true for us," she said. "I don't know how we got lumped in there (in that report). We sent eight guys to Maryland, not New Jersey. They have been there since before the storm but they've finished work and are headed home this morning."

The folks from Decatur Utilies, who are still cited in the original WAFF report, have been unavailable for comment this morning.
When they do become available, you can bet that the real story is not one of power crews being turned away by unions who would rather see people freeze in unheated homes than have non-union crews work in New jersey.

But that won't stop Rush and the "journalists" at Fox.


Not only that but it will be making the rounds on facebook and in chain emails for years. Each time bringing outraged indignation from anti-union right wingers who won't even bother to check the story for accuracy or care whether it's accurate or not. When it's something you want to hear, the source or motive is unimportant.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
I read another story. They were required to adopt union policies if they wanted to work. The fact that there were any roadblocks or stipulations at all is ridiculous.

Which policies? Were they policies that affected safety such as hours you can work in a shift? Equipment you must be provided to work safely? Procedure you must follow to avoid injuring a co-worker?

Stop spreading non-sense, innuendo and half truths.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Fox News updated the story and are now claiming that trade unions developed technology to create and direct storms in order to generate union jobs. Rush chimed in and stated; "The IBEW have been promoting wind turbines so they can direct storms to pro-union areas. That is why Sandy made a "left turn" heading towards New Jersey and New York."
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:09 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Great to be a right wingnut. You get to hate people who don't work and you get to hate people who do. Oh, and hate the president for being the wrong color, magic! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

JerseyDevil wrote:
Long_Duk_Dong wrote:
I read another story. They were required to adopt union policies if they wanted to work. The fact that there were any roadblocks or stipulations at all is ridiculous.

Which policies? Were they policies that affected safety such as hours you can work in a shift? Equipment you must be provided to work safely? Procedure you must follow to avoid injuring a co-worker?

Stop spreading non-sense, innuendo and half truths.


I wish there was a like button for this comment. But all and all this thread was a swing and a miss
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

from the ding Dong:
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They were required to adopt union policies if they wanted to work.


Oh yeah, I am sure they would have hated to work for union scale...dope!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:46 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Villianesta has you there, LDD! That was really weak stuff. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Add User to Ignore List Reply with quote

Rare to see a subject come to a strong conclusion on here. I expect it to be erased soon. Long Duck Fred took a logic beating.
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