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Cops and Robbers
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What the Republican Presidential Candidates Would Do To the Debt
The GOP plans are all marked by large, swift cuts to federal revenue, achieved largely by lowering taxes on
the wealthy, matched with vague cuts to "save" programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. |
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Wharton
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The Democrat Talking points memo is what you've been cutting and pasting for 5 years.
It's the spin and propoganda that the democrat party wants their lapdogs to spew that day.
Did the Democrat talking points memo point out that the CBO now states that the cost of Obamacare is nearly DOUBLE what Obama (and the Democrat Talking Points Memo) lied to us previously?
You'd think a "web-based political journalism organization" would be all over that.  |
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Cops and Robbers
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Wharton wrote: | | The Democrat Talking points memo is what you've been cutting and pasting for 5 years. |
Wrong again. I do not subscribe to any Democrat press releases, not that it's any of your business.
There is also a rule of reason which explains that facts stand or fall on their own, and do not depend on who says so. Be specific. To simply claim everything I say is untrue because of accusations of phony associations shall not suffice.
(It just so happens that, at this unfortunate time in history, the "conservative" media machine echo themselves regardless the truth. Whereas the facts themselves have a well-known liberal bias.  |
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Scorpion
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Can you say OBAMACIZE boys and girls?
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Cops and Robbers
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Wharton wrote: | | The Democrat Talking points memo....the Democrat talking points memo...the Democrat Talking Points Memo |
Again the Talking Points Memo is an independent journalism website, having no affiliation with the Democratic Party. I will never understand the joyful hate you find in lying. Maybe that's why you don't care if your own opinion leaders lie to you. The hate itself is the whole point. |
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Cops and Robbers
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Wharton wrote: | | the CBO now states that the cost of Obamacare is nearly DOUBLE what Obama (and the Democrat Talking Points Memo) lied to us previously? |
Please link us to that, so we know what you're talking about.
CBO: Obama's health law to cost less than first thought
The Hill (March 13, 2012) — The law's coverage provisions are now expected to cost $1.083 trillion over the next 10 years, $50 billion less than the $1.131 trillion projected last year. |
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spazcat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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uh oh, wharton! two sets of facts and you guessed it...they are contradictory! now what?  |
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posterX
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Wharton wrote: | The Democrat Talking points memo is what you've been cutting and pasting for 5 years.
It's the spin and propoganda that the democrat party wants their lapdogs to spew that day.
Did the Democrat talking points memo point out that the CBO now states that the cost of Obamacare is nearly DOUBLE what Obama (and the Democrat Talking Points Memo) lied to us previously?
You'd think a "web-based political journalism organization" would be all over that. |
You have b@lls to talk about the spewing lapdogs.
Did you actually read the CBO statement from it's website, or did you just make it up? According to Politifact the actual difference is 8.6% from the original estimate. Before you asked if I could provide a link...so here it is, even though I know how you hate facts, especially when they contradict the alternate reality conservatives like you favor. Iddiot.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/mar/21/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-says-health-reforms-price-tag-has-doubled/
It's just another outlandish lie from the right, right up there with "death panels." It shows how desperate the right is to appease their superiors in the healthcare industry. They're not just lying to the left you know Wharton...they're lying to you too, and you fall for every ridiculous lie they come up with. |
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Cops and Robbers
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Cops and Robbers
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Wharton wrote: | | The CBO now states that the cost of Obamacare is nearly DOUBLE |
Wharton is a sucker for conservative lies. And hopes we are, too. Thanks, posterX for the link. |
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spazcat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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| yes, more links, more, more, more...px! |
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Cops and Robbers
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| spazcat wrote: | | yes, more links, more, more, more |
If you wanted to challenge Politifact's determination that the Republican talking point is untrue, that arguably might be a legitimate debate. But to complain about just linking us to the Politifact website, that seems a silly pet peeve.
In fact, I didn't find the link to whatever Wharton was talking about, and Wharton wasn't cooperating, so posterX linking us to the Politifact website helped clarify the discussion here. |
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Wharton
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CBO: ObamaCare Price Tag Shifts from $940 Billion to $1.76 Trillion
President Obama's landmark healthcare overhaul is projected to cost $1.76 trillion over a decade, reports the Congressional Budget Office, a hefty sum more than the $940 billion estimated when the healthcare legislation was signed into law. To put it mildly, ObamaCare's projected net worth is far off from its original estimate -- in fact, about $820 billion off.
http://news.yahoo.com/cbo-obamacare-price-tag-shifts-940-billion-1-163500655.html |
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Abaddon
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Now that the Stink has cleared....I Hope most of you realize that the issue,and original statement, were purposely deviated from....Cut and Paste pictures that mimicked political media and its agenda's ,were forced into your consciousness as pixels.Reality on the other hand doesn't deal in pixels or opinions of pixels.It deals with the dirt under your nails,the pain in your back,the hugs from your kids and the view from your window.....Don't call a Sunset, the end of a day.  |
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posterX
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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| spazcat wrote: | | yes, more links, more, more, more...px! |
Wharton is the one that recently asked me for a link. He is also providing links. Why single me out? Oh...that's right.
Spaz, you said that you were a Vietnam Vet on another thread. That means that you're pretty old. Way too old to be acting the way you have on this forum.  |
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spazcat
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| sorry cops because you can find a site that agrees with you and which YOU have decided is accurate and or "unbiased" fact...doesn't mean that it is. i've shown on another post an example of two "facts" both believed accurate by the other side that are completely contradictory. and in fact both are true! so what's the point who are you convincing? not me thats for sure, yourself? |
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spazcat
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| the day i start giving a d@mn what you think on any subject px is the day they put me in the home. if my son acted anything like you have on this forum, i would smother him in his sleep. |
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Cops and Robbers
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posterX
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| spazcat wrote: | | the day i start giving a d@mn what you think on any subject px is the day they put me in the home. if my son acted anything like you have on this forum, i would smother him in his sleep. |
That's a pretty sick statement..coming from someone that has behaved like a 12 yr old on this forum...makes it even worse. Act your age old man. I think it's well past the time you should have been put in the home. |
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posterX
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| Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| spazcat wrote: | | sorry cops because you can find a site that agrees with you and which YOU have decided is accurate and or "unbiased" fact...doesn't mean that it is. i've shown on another post an example of two "facts" both believed accurate by the other side that are completely contradictory. and in fact both are true! so what's the point who are you convincing? not me thats for sure, yourself? |
And what about Wharton who has combed mostly far right news sources?
From the past you've shown that you are incapable of distinguishing fact from fantasy. |
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Cops and Robbers
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posterX
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spazcat
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| as usual two of us who have no idea what you are talking about... |
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